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I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. And ev all the sort of compliance, client service, legal, kind of, everything was done sort of on the side by investment people. In 2000, right.
You had the run up in the dot coms to 2000. Let me say what your compliance wouldn’t allow you to say. You guys were killing it in the mid 2000s. ” 29, 87, 74, just pick any 50 plus percent number and certainly 2000 and ’08, ’09, a major index gets cut in half. And what was his response?
There are a ton of expenses, and they’re getting higher with compliance and marketing and reporting and investor relationship, et cetera. For a lot of funds, the early 2000 saw a lot of opportunity in the distressed market and in other spaces. You have a lot — RITHOLTZ: The emerging manager category? MIELLE: Exactly.
But the numbers you can’t argue with, I mean, we all know that the brutal math of investing before costs investors collectively will earn the market return after costs. You, you wrote at the journal through the.com implosion as well as the whole runup to 2000 September 11th, the great financial Crisis. I did it in 2000, 2002.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. So any compliance people listening, I’m just spitballing here. That’s Barry saying it.
And then I developed this macro affinity starting in 2000, really? So that’s the math. You have to get compliance. It’s a, it’s the marrying, quite frankly, of macro and micro. So I have a, a deep background in micro, mainly the TMT space. 2009, 10 in that role. And so marrying the two to me is the advantage.
KLINSKY: That was a super hot theme in the year 1999 and 2000. RITHOLTZ: So it’s different math then I need 100x winner versus 99? RITHOLTZ: So I know we’re not going to talk about performance and returns because of the normal compliance headaches. RITHOLTZ: That was the George Gilder telecosm debacle.
ASNESS: Well, I was striving for uncorrelated, but then the compliance officer in my head is saying sometimes it doesn’t come out to zero all the time. And it’s really not a compliance reason, I hope it’s more of an intellectual honesty reason. My mom was a math teacher so — RITHOLTZ: Okay. ASNESS: Yes.
And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You know, you run an RIA, the SEC just comes knocking every once in a while to say, Hey, just wanna make sure the compliance program’s all set up. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations.
In 2000, I mean, sorry, in 1980, I was 15 years old, I’m sneaking into comedy clubs watching, you know, Jim Carrey and Dave Thomas and, you know, like everybody could show up on a night. I mean, a lot of the best trades that Cramer did as a hedge fund manager, you know, tapping out before everything went to hell in 2000.
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