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I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. Now I do fundamental side research portfoliomanagement, which I just, 00:08:20 [Speaker Changed] So, so you joined GMO, there’s 60 people, 30 years.
But yes, I was given my own column and by that point, having seen all these star managers come and go, you know, I had become an index fund devotee, and in column after column I banged the drum for index funds to the point where my editors were asking me, Hey, could you write about something else? I did it in 2000, 2002.
All of their portfoliomanagers not only are substantial investors in each of their funds, but they do a disclosure year that shows each manager by name and how much money they have invested in their own fund. You, 00:18:29 [Speaker Changed] You, you mentioned ownership mentality. 00:29:45 [Speaker Changed] That’s amazing.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. So I, as a discretionary portfoliomanager, if you hand me cash, I can look at the market and say, you know what?
So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. You know, pure math can be very theoretical and detached from the real world, and it’s getting worse. Some people look at a casino as entertainment and hey, we’re gonna spend X dollars, pick a number, 500, 2000, whatever it is.
But it was a tremendous experience because I had started off in bond trading, worked my way into portfoliomanagement and running the bond indexing team for a number of years, and then I got asked to take this responsibility, which was much broader. RITHOLTZ: Right. The 2010s were certainly the TINA decade.
Barry Ritholtz : This week on the podcast, not only do I have an extra special guest, but I have a mutual fund Legends Fidelity Low price stock fund manager, Joel Tillinghast has been there pretty much since inception in 1989. He’s crushed the Russell 2000, whatever benchmark you want to talk about. a year since 1989.
She was a partner and a portfoliomanager at Canyon Capital, a firm that runs currently about $25 billion. For a lot of funds, the early 2000 saw a lot of opportunity in the distressed market and in other spaces. BARRY RITHOLTZ, HOST, MASTERS IN BUSINESS: This week on the podcast, my extra special guest is Dominique Mielle.
I was a fixed income portfoliomanager and trader, which is a ton of fun. PIMCO out on the West Coast, read the first thing I wrote in the Journal of PortfolioManagement. My mom was a math teacher so — RITHOLTZ: Okay. The entire market, if you like, a Shiller CAPE or something was much worse in ’99, 2000.
And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. And I think that helped fuel the smart beta boom of the 2000 tens. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that. And I just caught the bug.
Matt Eagan has spent his entire career in fixed income from credit analyst to portfoliomanager. Now he’s the head of the discretion team at Loomis Sales, which manages well over $335 billion in client assets. I started out math and, and physics, and in high school I was a rock star in math and physics.
I’d been ranked i i back in the seventies, if you can do the math. And like you mentioned, the smooth sailing in the 2000 tens 00:15:07 [Speaker Changed] Didn’t feel that way at the time. He helps portfoliomanagers make sense of the world. So at that point, I had a pretty big career. Not, not useful.
That’s why the markets are much more of a mind game than a math game. And that’s why markets will always be exceedingly hard, even when the math seems easy or the future seems certain. On average, the median Wall Street forecast from 2000 through 2023 missed its target by an astonishing 13.8 Stop with the math.`
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