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My Two-for-Tuesday morning train WFH reads: • Stock Pickers Never Had a Chance Against Hard Math of the Market : In years like this one, when just a few big companies outperform, it’s hard to assemble a winning portfolio. If you’re depending on income to fund your retirement, 5% rates are a blessing. 2000-2003 Dotcom implosion 6.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. I didn’t know what any of these terms meant. RITHOLTZ: They just became distressed. SALISBURY: Sure.
It has to be such a different set, the retirement planning is different, the safety net is different. People in Spain when I was growing up in the ‘80s and ‘90s, they expect to just retire and have the government give them like a paycheck every month. BERRUGA: This is 2003. RITHOLTZ: So you move here from Spain. RITHOLTZ: Yeah.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. People earn wages, whether it’s a retirement account or a tax deferred account or just an investment account.
My dad was a naval officer who retired shortly before I was born. What did your dad retire from doing? He retired and went to work at the Library of Congress as personnel. RITHOLTZ: Why is it not surprising that a math nerd is also a placekicker? Tell us about those experiences. So my dad is actually from Mississippi.
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I don’t even know what it’s going to be yet, but I mean, I’m not retiring. Well, I mean, so I, I find that, you know, this, and this goes back to, you know, 2003 with Regulation fd, that’s when everything kind of changed. So that’s the math. 00:12:37 [Speaker Changed] Really interesting.
RITHOLTZ: So you launch your own firm IDW in 2003. I’ll have to be when I retire and publish under Anonymous. We are seeing the older generation begin to retire, you have Ray Dalio stepping down at Bridgewater, you have a lot of managers who are now in their late 60s, early 70s or beyond. RITHOLTZ: People will figure out.
And I was a math nerd as a kid. You’re 34th, you’re retiring after 34 years and you trounce what’s really the more appropriate benchmark, I would assume the Russell 2000. So, so you set to retire as portfolio manager this year, you mentioned your two successors. You, you beat the s and p by 3.7%
I couldn’t make that math work at all plausibly. That said, over the past 20 years (2003-2022), the S&P 500 delivered a 9.80 In Dave’s world, an 8 percent retirement withdrawal rate isn’t crazy. It’s almost all powerful and good stuff, with one major error. Did you catch it? Maybe he misspoke.
I mean, there were some advisor pickup, but you had to be kind of on the front edge of finance, or a quant, or running your own models, which in 2003, was not that common. Let Mr. Market do his thing and we’ll find out how we did when we get ready to retire. It’s how math works. NADIG: Yeah. RITHOLTZ: Right.
I started out math and, and physics, and in high school I was a rock star in math and physics. And that persistent until about 2003. And that’s when we started to create the, the team that, you know, Dan was on, I was on Elaine Stokes, everybody’s retired except for me off that original team.
So, I did the math, 20 million times a hundred. So, let me just repeat the math. And so, again, I went through this simple math. And he came up with a plan in late 2003 to solve this problem with the oligarchs and what he did was there was one oligarch in particular who was the richest oligarch. They said, seven years.
Wasn’t the Excel spreadsheet error, which changed their math. So you got the tax cuts in 2001, and then you got another one in 2003. Problem is, the math doesn’t work 01:20:33 [Speaker Changed] Well, you know, math, who really believes numbers should add up. I mean that was, that was the problem.
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