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In my opinion the diversification benefit hits diminishing returns pretty close to 40 individual holdings based on math if nothing else. If a portfolio starts with 40 holdings each with an equal 2.5% I've got quite a few names that have been in the portfolio since 2004-2006 when I first started this phase of my career.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. And then in a fit of madness, I guess, at the end of 2006, the credit markets were pretty uninteresting.
All of their portfoliomanagers not only are substantial investors in each of their funds, but they do a disclosure year that shows each manager by name and how much money they have invested in their own fund. You, 00:18:29 [Speaker Changed] You, you mentioned ownership mentality.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. So I, as a discretionary portfoliomanager, if you hand me cash, I can look at the market and say, you know what?
This was the era, 2005, 2006, all of my friends were looking to get banking roles. And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that.
I’d been ranked i i back in the seventies, if you can do the math. He helps portfoliomanagers make sense of the world. But if you go back to 2006 point half percent sounds high. Tell us a little bit about the plan for launching an independent economics research 00:09:15 [Speaker Changed] Shop. Not, not useful.
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