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00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. We built a company that was focused on valuation, initially, actually targeting corporate strategic planning departments.
But there’s always gotta be some element of the valuation really being compelling. But even in the book I wrote in 2014, you could see that the focus on competitive advantage can never be absolute, you always have to take valuation into consideration. But maybe second to valuation as a primary consideration.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. And then in a fit of madness, I guess, at the end of 2006, the credit markets were pretty uninteresting.
We discount each year at our 10% minimum weighted average cost of capital (WACC) and some infinite series maths gives us the basis for some rough approximations 2. By this valuation method, the portfolio cashflow duration is in the 16 to 17-years range. Maths has a long half-life and a DCF correctly done accounts for inflation.
And I would say that Washington was pretty interesting because we had gone and, and spoken to people in 2005, 2006, and to kind of let people know that there was something, these are, this is a trillion dollars worth of misprice risk. We participated in that with treasury and FHFA and the regulators, the White House.
This was the era, 2005, 2006, all of my friends were looking to get banking roles. And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that.
Literally the first check-in to Robinhood, which went public in 2021 at about a $34 billion valuation. And then I didn’t do the internet again until 2006. RITHOLTZ: He was the first (inaudible) in round B at the higher valuation. Well, 2006 was a miracle. If you were alive and writing checks in 2006 to 2011.
SIEGEL: — or 2006, ’07, ‘08. RITHOLTZ: So here’s the question about 2020 and we could talk a little bit about the pandemic, when you have an event from outside the market, sort of feels less like the dot-coms and the valuation issue, and more like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, it’s totally outside of the system.
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