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So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. We just get to focus on assets and asset riskmanagement. RITHOLTZ: And if only you could do that.
I — I loved math, but really, I was going to go down that literature route more than anything else and — and study Spanish literature. At Citi, in 2007, fantastic timing, you take over as Head of Structured Solutions. And so, 2007, I came over to Citi. RITHOLTZ: There’s always risk involved with counterparties ….
But there’s also a lot of, like at Wittel, you know, I was at Wachtel in 2005 to 2007, so really near the peak of a big merger’s boom. So like a component of it was like the standard derivatives math, right? And so like, you know, I got there and I learned derivatives math, right? And I love that.
So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. You know, pure math can be very theoretical and detached from the real world, and it’s getting worse. Those have compounded over the centuries and have managed to amass a huge amount of, of capital. Riskmanagement.
Are most people better off in an index fund than playing with an active manager, be it mutual fund or high fee hedge funds? SEIDES: John Yeah, I said back then, the bet started in 2007 and I say today, being in the market and investing in hedge funds is completely apples and oranges. This is the summer of 2007. RITHOLTZ: 2007.
And so the other thing is, is that, and I think it’s our core riskmanagement culture, is that we think that till risk is way more probable than everyone else does. And I was always good at math and, and I had been writing code since I was in the sixth grade. Now in the US we tracked the home ownership rate.
So, I did the math, 20 million times a hundred. This guy just hired me, the management of this trawler fleet to advise them on whether the management should exercise their legitimate right under the privatization program of Russia to buy 51 percent. So, let me just repeat the math. How many do you have in your fleet?
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