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Sherman oversees and administers DoubleLine’s investment management subcommittee; serves as lead portfolio manager for multisector and derivative-based strategies; and is a member of the firm’s executive management and fixed-income assetallocation committees. He is host of the podcast The Sherman Show and a CFA charter holder.
And my dad had always said, as many young kids get this advice, doctor, lawyer, accountant, engineer. So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases.
She has a really fascinating background, very eclectic, a combination of math and law. You, you get a, a BS in Mathematics and a JD from Boston University Math and Law. It is something, math has always come easy to me since a child. I didn’t get an advanced degree in math. We also do assetallocation and overlays.
That led me down that track and really well, I had a software engineering job. Let, 00:04:08 [Speaker Changed] Let’s lead up to that transition software engineer at IBM, then you get your PhD, then research at Siemens, which seems to be more of a technological position than a finance position. We, we call assetallocation at GMO.
One, one is true and I’ve always said is that I wanted people to stop, ask if I could doing math. And no one asked me if I can do math anymore with a degree from Booth, particularly in econometrics and statistics. So people really ask you, you take French and can you do math. It depends on your assetallocation.
But the numbers you can’t argue with, I mean, we all know that the brutal math of investing before costs investors collectively will earn the market return after costs. My audio engineer is John Wasserman. They will earn that market return less, whatever they’re paying. Anna Luke is my producer, Sean Russo is my researcher.
I — I loved math, but really, I was going to go down that literature route more than anything else and — and study Spanish literature. Everyone wants to — which is so intuitive now, but we became a lot more tactical with some of our allocations. Of course, we have strategic assetallocations, strategic portfolios.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. Sarah Livesey is my audio engineer. Very few people want to quote unquote, get onto a smartphone.
DAVIS: It’s a long story, but originally I went to school for engineering. Got to school, realized that I wasn’t very good at mechanical drawing, which is a big part of aerospace engineering curriculum. Justin Milner is my audio engineer. Undergraduate, you get a BS in insurance from Penn State.
Once you have your assetallocation dialed in, your automatic contributions dialed in, all the basics, then you can move on. Have I managed my assetallocation and my investment fees? It’s much deeper than math. Samantha Danziger is my audio engineer. And part of that involves designing your rich life.
They’re assetallocation model driven folks. And I was always good at math and, and I had been writing code since I was in the sixth grade. Kayleigh Lepar is my audio engineer. Yeah, it’s super patient, it’s super sophisticated. So I had real support around Wall Street. I’m Barry.
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. 00:01:58 [Savita Subramanian] Well, I started out as an electrical engineering computer science major. 00:03:00 [Speaker Changed] I read a quote from you way back when you said your parents were pushing you to be either an engineer or a doctor. Is this true?
And I taught myself to program when I was 12 and all throughout late middle school and high school, I was programming games for my Game boy and developing game engines for the computer. And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that.
Undergraduate applied mathematics, master’s degree in financial engineering, a little bit of, of teaching. So how Barry Ritholtz : Do you go from a PhD program to financial engineering masters? They ended up going back to a school in LA called Claremont, and they had a financial engineering program there. It was kidding.
Or should this be kept out of private assetallocators’ hands? So, it’s not one of these fuzzy math situations where you don’t really know what the value of the fund is because it’s got private companies in it that are being marked by individuals who have an ax to grind in the mark.
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