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His philanthropy includes sitting on the board of directors of Paul Tudor Jones’ Robin Hood Foundation and Jim Simon’s Math for America. Borish also explains why “Trading and riskmanagement are inherently unnatural.” Borish also previously served as chief strategist for Quad Group LLC.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. We just get to focus on assets and asset riskmanagement. RITHOLTZ: And if only you could do that.
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She has a really fascinating background, very eclectic, a combination of math and law. You, you get a, a BS in Mathematics and a JD from Boston University Math and Law. It is something, math has always come easy to me since a child. I didn’t get an advanced degree in math. Not the usual combination. What happened?
One, one is true and I’ve always said is that I wanted people to stop, ask if I could doing math. And no one asked me if I can do math anymore with a degree from Booth, particularly in econometrics and statistics. So people really ask you, you take French and can you do math. Two reasons. Absolutely.
I — I loved math, but really, I was going to go down that literature route more than anything else and — and study Spanish literature. BITTERLY MICHELL: … riskmanagement. Let’s talk about books. He wrote this book called “San Manuel Bueno, Mártir,” which is San Manuel, Saint Manuel, the Good, Martyr.
So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. You know, pure math can be very theoretical and detached from the real world, and it’s getting worse. Those have compounded over the centuries and have managed to amass a huge amount of, of capital. Riskmanagement. That’s a long time.
And I did the math, and I think at that point in time, roughly speaking, assets in ETS were roughly just 10 percent, 12 percent of assets in mutual funds and I was pretty convinced that that number was to increase significantly. Let’s talk about books. You have the liquidity, the tax efficiency, the transparency. RITHOLTZ: Yeah.
.” It’s really helpful to have had five other meetings with people who sit at analogous funds that had losses that were just as big, and in fact, they may have contributed to those losses more and be able to tell him, first off, your fund, just by my math, has a $250 million management fee. WEINSTEIN: I do, Barry.
So like a component of it was like the standard derivatives math, right? And so like, you know, I got there and I learned derivatives math, right? It was derivatives math, it was like working with the traders on like riskmanagement. When is the Matt Levine book ever 00:52:01 Get publish? 00:52:10 Yeah.
He kind of wrote about that in his book and people look at that and say, “Oh, I can replicate that.” And I made the letter, I actually put the letter in my first book to describe how you get somebody’s attention. And I had written that first book about hedge funds, which led me- RITHOLTZ: In 2016, right?
DAVIS: A big part of it is really around when there’s more complicated corporate actions that are happening that entail a level of risk. There’s conversations that happen with our riskmanagement department to make sure we’re comfortable in terms of what kind of exposure that creates in the fund.
She was a partner and a portfolio manager at Canyon Capital, a firm that runs currently about $25 billion. Her book, “Damsel in Distressed: My Life in the Golden Age of Hedge Funds”, is really a fascinating read. I know I want to have a guest on with a book. First of all, before we get started, I very much enjoyed the book.
BORISH: So one of the geniuses of Paul in really understanding futures markets in general is that most of the innovative riskmanagement approaches came out of the futures markets because of the using margin. So we took people and back then there was a book, right, the Dow from 1897 to present. ” Explain what that means.
He is the author of a new book, “Investing Amid Low Expected Returns: Making the Most When the Markets Offer the Least.” So, first, I found the book to be quite fascinating, very in depth and you managed to take some of the more technical arcana and make it very understandable. Welcome to Bloomberg. ANTTI ILMANEN.
So in mortgages, the borrower can stop paying maybe a year to two years before the lenders actually book a loss. And so the other thing is, is that, and I think it’s our core riskmanagement culture, is that we think that till risk is way more probable than everyone else does. It was written in 1965.
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It’s, it’s no different But, but inherently in futures, a whole lot more leverage, a whole lot more risk. How fundamental was that to your learning about investing, trading riskmanagement, starting with futures? You’re doing a lot of math in your head on the Fly. I was trying to trade a big book.
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