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That insight greatly simplified my task of making the book both fun to read and helpful for anyone interested in investing. Here is a broad overview of each of the 10 main sections, which can help you quickly grasp the key ideas in the book. We evolved in an arithmetic world, so we are unprepared for the exponential math of finance.
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The first thing young investors find when they Google "best investing books" is Benjamin Graham's The Intelligent Investor. It's not that valuations don't matter, of course they do. Shaw , a hedge fund that currently employs over 80 PhDs and 25 International Math Olympiad medal holders. They're sharks. We're shark bait.
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He is the author of a new book, “Investing Amid Low Expected Returns: Making the Most When the Markets Offer the Least.” So, first, I found the book to be quite fascinating, very in depth and you managed to take some of the more technical arcana and make it very understandable. Welcome to Bloomberg. ANTTI ILMANEN.
I’d say management consulting is any of the other thing that least at that time was the other career trajectory, just my personality, more of a math oriented introvert. You really like the long time where you have to hold to make up that valuation whole is so long that you just really shouldn’t be involved. In 2000, right.
00:10:34 [Speaker Changed] And, and I don’t recall if this was on the podcast with John Mack or in John Mack’s book, but he had nothing but really nice things to say about Mitsubishi. But there’s always gotta be some element of the valuation really being compelling.
You would have to go find the periodicals, you would have to find the books, you would have to read ’em yourself. Thank goodness for books like the inv Innovator’s dilemma. It was about $170 million valuation. So here’s the math, Barry. But you would have to drive there. 00:33:48 [Speaker Changed] 17%.
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Download it here > Freezing Order We recently read Bill Browder’s Freezing Order which is a continuation of his pursuit for justice from the bestselling book Red Notice 1. We discount each year at our 10% minimum weighted average cost of capital (WACC) and some infinite series maths gives us the basis for some rough approximations 2.
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And I did the math, and I think at that point in time, roughly speaking, assets in ETS were roughly just 10 percent, 12 percent of assets in mutual funds and I was pretty convinced that that number was to increase significantly. Let’s talk about books. So I’ve always found myself going back to that book.
He kind of wrote about that in his book and people look at that and say, “Oh, I can replicate that.” And I made the letter, I actually put the letter in my first book to describe how you get somebody’s attention. What’s the valuation? What makes sense? SEIDES: I didn’t have his email.
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There’s a strong relationship between some of the ideas in the book and some of the ideas that inform our investing. RITHOLTZ: We’ll circle back to the book in a little bit. Is valuation significant, or is it, hey, we’re going to make 100 investments and if two or three workout, the valuations are irrelevant?
But the numbers you can’t argue with, I mean, we all know that the brutal math of investing before costs investors collectively will earn the market return after costs. Two, I got my first Wall Street bonus three, I sold another book, which meant I got a big advance. Tell us about some of your favorite books.
He has a very interesting approach to thinking about market valuations and strategies and when to deploy capital, when to go with the crowd, when to lean against the crowd, and has amassed and excellent track record. That’s the big five in my book. Second part of our framework is valuation fundamental work.
She has a, a fascinating career, and the new book is really interesting that basically teaches people to, you know, take control of their own careers, develop a vision and a plan, and then execute it. So I know in the book, you write about wanting to come to New York City and being like, gee, this is a little intimidating.
00:03:14 [Mike Greene] So that was actually an outgrowth from my experience coming out of Wharton and you mentioned the, the, you know, the transition of people who tended to be skilled at math or physics into finance. We built a company that was focused on valuation, initially, actually targeting corporate strategic planning departments.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. Let’s talk about books. I didn’t know what any of these terms meant. But there are a couple.
DAVIS: Where international equities, because of valuations, probably 7% to 7.5%. RITHOLTZ: So let’s talk about that, because that gap in valuation has persisted for a long time. How durable is that shift, given how large that gap has gotten in valuation between US stocks and the rest of the developed world?
And his new book, “Rise of the Rest,” describes that experience. And I read a book by Alvin Toffler, the futurist, called The Third Wave, and he basically was talking about this coming kind of electronic frontier or electronic cottage. And I think the reason to write the book because I wanted to tell those stories.
So I, I did a math degree at Oxford, which is more pure math. You know, pure math can be very theoretical and detached from the real world, and it’s getting worse. It’s just math stick to it over long periods of time. Then the volatility and, and the valuation makes an enormous difference.
I’m good at math and science and you know, I always had an idea what go into business, but I felt that electrical engineering would be a good foundation. You know, I, it always, I I see different numbers all the time, so it’s always kinda like, who’s math if you will? Let’s talk about some books.
And I was a math nerd as a kid. 00:44:11 [Speaker Changed] Kathy would may have her own valuation, so, but I can’t replicate it myself. Why is there such a spread between US domestic and overseas companies in terms of you’re a value investor in terms of straight up valuation? Let, let’s talk about books.
Now, we’re shifting to more international places like China, Europe, et cetera, that are really growing, and that valuations are cheaper. There’s number of books. It was one of the most famous books in education for a long time. How are we doing in literacy versus math versus science? Where are we?
So in mortgages, the borrower can stop paying maybe a year to two years before the lenders actually book a loss. But I recently was given a book, and I read it, it’s a companion of essays called A City is Not a Tree. And I was always good at math and, and I had been writing code since I was in the sixth grade.
I’m kind of in intrigued by the idea of philosophy and math. So I found myself getting kind of bored with my math problem sets, and then I could shift to philosophy and then go back and forth. And one of the worst performing factors has been valuation. And I think that’s wrong because valuation does matter.
I, like I said, I think the history books are going to be quite kind to Mr. Gorman. 00:31:40 [Speaker Changed] So there’s the emotions and then there’s the math, right? But we think that that valuations are there. 01:04:11 [Speaker Changed] Let’s talk about books. In a very short period of time.
Around 1990, value says in the original metrics, and I think they’ve advanced since then, price-to-book was the famous one Fama and French use. ASNESS: — which would go into book value and make a firm look not as expensive. But plenty of valuation measures, it has no applicability for price-to-sales. RITHOLTZ: Right.
00:24:49 [Speaker Changed] So let’s talk a little bit about valuation in the public markets. We see a lot of companies trading at book value. Does that valuation difference in the public markets extend to private markets as well? Does that valuation difference in the public markets extend to private markets as well?
My Sunday morning look at incompetency, corruption and policy failures: • There’s a real math problem with MicroStrategy’s obscene valuation premium : MicroStrategy is worth around 3x as much as its bitcoin holdings. His new book is “ Tribal: How the Cultural Instincts That Divide Us Can Help Bring Us Together.”
And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting. That is not being reflected in valuations from a top down standpoint. One is, if you think about EM, equity valuations versus the s and p, the EM index is trading at, you know, 10 to 11 times forward pe. You can get growth at extremely compelling valuations.
And I, and I really like the application of math and statistics and computer science to markets. You learn the math that can help you with, with market making operations. It’s just not smart on a math basis to do that. In fact, I once found a very similar quote in a, in an investment book from the 1980s.
Literally the first check-in to Robinhood, which went public in 2021 at about a $34 billion valuation. RITHOLTZ: Read Sebastian Mallaby’s book on, on “The Power Law: Venture Capital” million dollar deals were literally done on a handshake. The books are pretty easy to do Quicken. Is it about the valuation?
It’s sold ungodly numbers of copies, and is on everybody’s best finance books of all-time list. I’ve been as busy, because finishing, as we’re going to talk about, sixth edition of the book and conferences more than ever because now you can do them on Zoom. And they have some fascinating things to say.
Jeffrey Sherman : Well, what it was was, so I, as I said, with applications, there’s many applications of math, and the usually obvious one is physics. Barry Ritholtz : It seems that some people are math people and some people are not. The, the math came easier. And I really hated physics, really. It’s so true.
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