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And so I had actually interviewed for a couple of things when I got a call from a recruiter about Diamond Hill, I had actually never been to Columbus, Ohio before I went there to interview. And so when the recruiter called me, I said, you know, it sounds really interesting. But maybe second to valuation as a primary consideration.
So I took it upon myself to go off and took a course in bond math, took another course in derivatives and realized the underlying fundamental concepts were barely, I mean, it wasn’t even high school math in most cases. So we have a pretty well tried and tested campus recruitment approach.
He has a very interesting approach to thinking about market valuations and strategies and when to deploy capital, when to go with the crowd, when to lean against the crowd, and has amassed and excellent track record. Second part of our framework is valuation fundamental work. Well, that means valuations are probably too high.
And your bio explains how you were recruited to Vanguard. And it’s paid off, it’s paid spades in terms of, it helps us make sure that we’re recruiting the right people, it helps us in terms of retaining folks. DAVIS: Where international equities, because of valuations, probably 7% to 7.5%. RITHOLTZ: Right.
I got the sense that, so Churnin takes 51% for a fairly modest valuation, 10 or $15 million. You know, I think I went through two weeks of interviews and the recruiters had to be caught up and placated because none of their candidates got the job. That, that gives Barstool a half a billion dollar valuation.
And so alongside of Wall Street recruiting in my senior year, I interviewed at the Yale Investments Office and was fortunate to get that job and violated the two principles I had at the time, which was I wanted to be in a training program and I wanted to leave New Haven. What’s the valuation? How would you have done?
But plenty of valuation measures, it has no applicability for price-to-sales. RITHOLTZ: Meaning it would be a recruitment challenge. ASNESS: Well, first of all, I’m going to somewhat disappoint you saying we do not take very big bets on views like timing asset classes based on valuation. It can apply to earnings.
It was about $170 million valuation. So here’s the math, Barry. If you have seven $50 incremental year, then every 10 year old in America, when they enter into the fifth or sixth grade and the teacher says, Hey, today we’re gonna talk about math or compounding or stocks or capitalism, they’ll say, open up.
And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting. That is not being reflected in valuations from a top down standpoint. One is, if you think about EM, equity valuations versus the s and p, the EM index is trading at, you know, 10 to 11 times forward pe. You can get growth at extremely compelling valuations.
Literally the first check-in to Robinhood, which went public in 2021 at about a $34 billion valuation. RITHOLTZ: He was the first (inaudible) in round B at the higher valuation. Is it about the valuation? Back then I was Wallstrip was like a 400K valuation. RITHOLTZ: Valuation didn’t make much of a difference.
But thankfully, the next decade, things really accelerated in terms of the growth of the company and growth in the valuation, things like that. The math never seems to work out. We’ve been at it for coming on a decade, had only a couple 100,000 customers. No, at the beginning, we make an investment.
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